tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32118121.post1061760456237500833..comments2024-02-26T18:18:55.644+02:00Comments on Esser Agaroth (2ยข): Guest Post: A Modest ProposalEsser Agarothhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32118121.post-46074873191191698082008-08-23T21:14:00.000+03:002008-08-23T21:14:00.000+03:00People from Azza taking responsibility? Nope, not...People from Azza taking responsibility? Nope, not at all. It's a big problem. I'm hoping that after three years they'll be ready to hear it.<BR/><BR/>After speaking to several after the expulsion who used to hang out at the Internet Cafe where I worked, it seems like some were waking up,...too late of course.<BR/><BR/>One guy's father (Tashnady) wrote an article on Hebrew A7 about how he went to the Azza Council to ask how they were preparing to fight. He was told to pray, and that's it. <BR/><BR/>These people still didn't get it (although he did, I think).<BR/><BR/>So, no arguments here.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32118121.post-23694571296973549132008-08-22T17:50:00.000+03:002008-08-22T17:50:00.000+03:00I think you or Geulah said it to me once, that HaS...I think you or Geulah said it to me once, that HaShem keeps trying to bring Geulah, and we don't want to accept it.<BR/><BR/>I guess that answers the question of willingness.<BR/><BR/>(sigh)<BR/><BR/>Regarding "Eruv Rav" I guess I would have called them cancer requiring surgical removal, but I think we're on the basically the same page with that.<BR/><BR/>There just never seems to be a doctor in the house when you need one,...or at least none willing.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32118121.post-14145394477899957212008-08-22T10:06:00.000+03:002008-08-22T10:06:00.000+03:00My frustration is not directed to you personally B...My frustration is not directed to you personally Ben Yehudah. I know of this person and a thousand more just like him. He's an old man and should know better by now. <BR/><BR/>You wrote: <I>"The bottom line is that the gov't is controlled by the shadow gov't of Shimon Peres and Aharon Baraq, and the people are powerless to do anything about it."</I><BR/><BR/>The bottom line is...Hashem is in control of everything. We hold in our hands the greatest power of all...teshuva. If we would just use it!<BR/><BR/>The main trouble with us is everyone thinks he's a tzadik. No one has anything from which to repent.<BR/><BR/><I>Yirmiyahu, chapter 8<BR/><BR/>"...why is this rebellious people of Jerusalem eternally rebellious? They hold fast to guile; they refuse to repent. I have listened and heard. They speak untruth; no man relents of his evil, saying 'What have I done?' They all follow their course like a horse racing headlong in war...."<BR/><BR/>Yirmiyahu 25<BR/><BR/>"...'Repent now each man from his evil way and from the wickedness of your deeds, so that you may remain on the land that Hashem gave you and your fathers forever and ever....' "</I><BR/><BR/>I have yet to hear one person from Gush Katif take any responsibility for their present condition. Do they bear no blame at all? If so, then Hashem is just cruel to His children, <I>chas v'shalom!</I> <BR/><BR/>In fact, we brought it upon ourselves.<BR/><BR/>For forty years Hashem waited for us to fulfill the other half of the mitzva of yishuv ha'aretz...that of driving out the former inhabitants. Instead we brought them into our homes and insured them parnasa to remain.<BR/><BR/><I>Bamidbar 33<BR/><BR/>"...But if you do not drive out the inhabitants of the Land before you...it shall be that what I had meant to do to them, I shall do to you." </I><BR/><BR/>The Erev Rav government did not dictate who we must employ or from whom we must buy or whom we can visit and have coffee with. It doesn't prevent us shunning fellow Jews who insist on consorting with the enemy. No! There was plenty we could do, but we are so blase and uncaring about Hashem's desires, only concerned with our own.<BR/><BR/>The insistence on conforming to "democratic" means and norms is another example. Rav Binyamin Kahane,z"l Hy"d, already told us nearly ten years ago to stop supporting elections. Along comes Moshe Feiglin and once again, right-wing religious Jews are off on a wild goose chase wasting precious time and energy on a DISTRACTION from doing anything real and meaningful like making mass teshuva. <BR/><BR/>Before we set the world right, we have to first set our minds aright.<BR/>Some spiritual truths are in order.<BR/><BR/>The Erev Rav are klipot. They are parasitic in nature. They cannot exist without an attachment to kedusha from which they get the energy to survive. As long as Jews are mixed among them, they survive. When the Jews separate from them (and from their system) then that system will collapse and die. This is why we must abandon the system and separate from them. If we don't do it voluntarily then Hashem will bring it about and it won't be pleasant.<BR/><BR/>Just look at what has had to happen in order to distance good Jews from the government, the police, the courts---to disabuse us of the notion that we can bring the Erev Rav to the side of kedusha. It's not going to happen. It's not in their nature. They are not fitting vessels to contain it. (Another meaning to the phrase from Yirmiyahu---<I>"my people has fashioned for themselves broken vessels which cannot contain water."</I>)<BR/><BR/>The Torah is our instruction book for Life. It has everything we need and it tells us exactly what we need to do and how the world is run. Why do we not do more than pay lip service to it???<BR/><BR/>We should stop already with the schemes and keep repeating this simple message---Repent and Separate. <BR/><BR/>Cleanse your hearts and minds of foreign ideas. Cease the rebellion against the will of the Creator. Stop with the pragmatic cheshbonot and simply submit to the Torah's instructions. Separate from everyone and everything which contradicts it. <BR/><BR/>In the end, there is no other choice. At Sinai, we sold our souls back to the One who gave them. From that point on, our free will no longer included whether we would fulfill our destiny or not. Our free will only extends as far as deciding whether we will reach it by the long, hard road, or the short, easy one.<BR/><BR/>Haven't we suffered enough already? Let's just put down the toys and go in to supper. It really could be that simple, if we are willing. <BR/><BR/>No more games.<BR/><BR/>Shabbat shalom~Devorah Chayahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03625277197970920616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32118121.post-6153685595077444822008-08-21T23:44:00.000+03:002008-08-21T23:44:00.000+03:00You could post a response on your blog and I could...You could post a response on your blog and I could send him the link to it.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32118121.post-57228957872743870182008-08-21T23:33:00.000+03:002008-08-21T23:33:00.000+03:00B"HJust so that you know, I published this comment...B"H<BR/><BR/>Just so that you know, I published this comment w/o knowing which post you were commenting on,...because I trust your opinion.<BR/><BR/>Will this work? I have no idea.<BR/><BR/>I do know that Aryeh is an ally, and wants to do something. I want to do something, and if it means not supporting banks and bankers, then it sounds good to me.<BR/><BR/>I have no doubt he would be interested in constructive criticism, and alternatives.<BR/><BR/>The bottom line is that the gov't is controlled by the shadow gov't of Shimon Peres and Aharon Baraq, and the people are powerless to do anything about it.<BR/><BR/>Even if democracy was remotely connected with Torah, we don't have a fair one.<BR/><BR/>So, until we do the "right" thing, creativity is what we've got.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32118121.post-55265986352722251752008-08-21T22:03:00.000+03:002008-08-21T22:03:00.000+03:00Why is it no one will do the one thing that will h...Why is it no one will do the one thing that will help until it's the only option left. I have yet to hear anyone say "We have sinned and our fathers have sinned" and beat their breast in sincere contrition. Until that happens, nothing will change. If you think this plan has a snowball's chance of succeeding...well, let's just say I'm disappointed.Devorah Chayahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03625277197970920616noreply@blogger.com