tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32118121.post2000113817658707697..comments2024-02-26T18:18:55.644+02:00Comments on Esser Agaroth (2ยข): Bet-El UlpanaEsser Agarothhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32118121.post-47153699885674076772012-07-01T19:29:55.304+03:002012-07-01T19:29:55.304+03:00Rav Teichel said something similar about those bui...Rav Teichel said something similar about those building up the Land, not being Torah observant.<br /><br />That doesn't mean we have to sit back, and wait around for Mashiah. This "waiting around" hashqafah of Satar, etc. has actually only existed for about 500 years.<br /><br />It is complete absent from the writings of the Ramba"m, for example.<br /><br />This is where mamlakhtiyuth stops short. Encourage aliyah, but...<br /><br />"We can't bring the qorban Pesah, because we're not ready." "We can't build the Miqdash, because we're not ready." I do not recall this being a halakhic source. These answers came from rabbis in Eli, in case you're wondering.<br /><br />Review the part in which he brings down the midrash of the shrak-rak bird. I will find the page when I have a chance, but that won't be until next week, I'm afraid.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32118121.post-307098515121913182012-07-01T18:41:26.953+03:002012-07-01T18:41:26.953+03:00Even though I am a talmid of both R'Tau and R&...Even though I am a talmid of both R'Tau and R' Tzuriel I am unaware of any machloket between them concerning the publication of Rav Kook's manuscripts (perhaps because I try to distance myself from rechilut and lashon hara. Suffice it to say that AFAIK Otzrot HaRaya is not banned from Yeshivat Har Hamor.<br />I wont bother you with more "mamlachti pilpul" but mamlachti peshat mibet midrasho of Harav ZTZL says that it is not for us to complain that the Geulah is brought by those who are not meshlomei emunei Yisrael. As R Akiva was willing t see the Geulah brought by Bar Kochva we see the Geulah brought by the likes of Ben Gurion and (lehavdil) Bibi.<br />Maybe you could point me to the specific parts of Eim HaBanim Smeicha that you were referring to?David Tzoharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11510921351328863453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32118121.post-25610793814151890372012-07-01T16:04:25.668+03:002012-07-01T16:04:25.668+03:00Democracy is a Greek, ie. Hellenist system of gove...Democracy is a Greek, ie. Hellenist system of government, not a Jewish one.<br /><br />I am familiar with the mamlakhti pilpul.<br /><br />I am not interested in the will of Klal Yisrael. I am interested in the Will of HaShem, which is clearly NOT be executed leKhathillah.<br /><br />Furthermore, the PM and Knesseth do not even execute the will of Klal Yisrael. They execute the will of the goyim (galuth mentality).<br /><br />The will of Klal Yisrael? They execute their own will, in order to keep their seats in Knesseth. Most of them are not even kasher for eduth. Their representation is maintainance at best, until a truly Jewish government can be established.<br /><br />I suggest you read (re-read) Em HaBanim Smeicha. Their gaivah will eventually bring themselves down, yet not soon enough for my taste.<br /><br />Speaking of Rav Tau, do you know how it is that countless writings of Rav Kook were found in the Merkaz geniza after he left?<br /><br />Do you know how it that R' Tzuriel's books on Rav Kook were banned from Merkaz, and then (after he left) were not only accepted, but encouraged reading?Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32118121.post-74209611395146688762012-07-01T15:18:26.312+03:002012-07-01T15:18:26.312+03:00"it's not for him to decide what to do wi..."it's not for him to decide what to do with the Land that Hashem put into our hands"<br />I don't know what you mean here. It is not Bibi's personal decision but he is the head of the duly elected government that represents the will of klall Yisrael in Eretz Yisrael. I would suggest that you look at the book L'emunat Iteinu by Rav Tau SHLITA for insight on how the State and its government represent the will of Klall Yisrael.David Tzoharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11510921351328863453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32118121.post-74965416347372488882012-07-01T13:49:32.482+03:002012-07-01T13:49:32.482+03:00B"H - David Tzohar, it's not up to us to ...B"H - David Tzohar, it's not up to us to weight five buildings against 300 permits. It's like Shimon & Levi saying to Dina's raper: Fine, now give us something and we'll close an eye"! Nono, we are not gods, we are just ordinary Jews, kept to follow the Book. So, that is what we should be doing. Just following the book. Besides, there is a chance that the soldiers and police, not to mention the higher "authoroties" connected to this, qualify for being mosrim.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32118121.post-15672736764522856282012-07-01T11:32:42.822+03:002012-07-01T11:32:42.822+03:00Hadassa,
Thanks!
Here it is!
Meraglim
Interest...Hadassa,<br /><br />Thanks!<br /><br />Here it is!<br /><br /><b><a href="http://esseragaroth.blogspot.co.il/2009/07/yesha-council-modern-day-spies-film.html" rel="nofollow">Meraglim</a></b><br /><br />Interestingly enough, you will see two prominent residents of Bet-El here testifying to the betrayal by the YeSh"A Council.<br /><br />Of course, you will also see Aviner telling Jews to leave, as well as testimony that he attacked a boy and an Avrech.<br /><br />I think he needs to work on his priorities.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32118121.post-76974743096092279962012-07-01T11:29:26.840+03:002012-07-01T11:29:26.840+03:00David,
1. As you know R' Melamed and Aviner a...David,<br /><br />1. As you know R' Melamed and Aviner are joint rabbis of Beth. R' Melamed has bent over backwards to keep the peace in Bet El, and (to the best of my recollection) has only publicly disagreed with Aviner once in the last 7 years. If R' Melamed was behind the agreement, that would be very disturbing, indeed, and worth checking into. Thank you for pointing out the possibility.<br /><br />2. It doesn't matter how many homes he promises to build, it's not for him to decide what to do with the Land that HaShem put into our hands.<br /><br />3. Encouraging settlement in the Gallil and Negev are definitely important.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32118121.post-86321509502515025402012-07-01T10:10:42.315+03:002012-07-01T10:10:42.315+03:00I pride myself on my anti-state/anti IDF ideology ...I pride myself on my anti-state/anti IDF ideology but I must disagree with you here.<br /><br />Both the right and the left think it is still 2005, but things have changed. Knocking down a few houses is all the current government is capable of, and is all it's successor's will be able to do as well. Look at how desperate Bibi was to avoid a confrontation, there is a reason for that: he knew he'd have to deal with mass refusals and he'd lose the support of the right. Unlike Begin and Sharon, Netanyahu needs right wing support to stay in power.<br /><br />Nasrallah once pointed out that the Israeli public is weak as cobwebs. He couldn't have been more right. They don't have the stomach for a struggle with the settlers anymore. In 15 years there will be over 200,000 settlers beyond the fence, the IDF's combat units will be almost entirely religious and the left will still be fantasizing about withdrawals. But it will still be just a fantasy.Billyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12195012284369813406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32118121.post-74054679910843069692012-07-01T00:22:57.005+03:002012-07-01T00:22:57.005+03:00Shalom!
You should give links to the "Meragli...Shalom!<br />You should give links to the "Meraglim" videos. How anyone can watch them and not fight for his/her house is beyond me.<br />HadassaHadassa DeYounghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00253596063646903000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32118121.post-73642612769043255802012-06-30T22:54:16.351+03:002012-06-30T22:54:16.351+03:00Is R'Zalman Melamed mara deatra of Bet El and ...Is R'Zalman Melamed mara deatra of Bet El and architect of the compromise that led to the peaceful evacuation of Givat Haulpana also one of your "Rabbis" in quotation marks? If Bibi follows through with his promise to build 300(!) new homes in Bet El then the evacuation of Givat Ha ulpana will have been worth it. In the larger picture the State led by the Likud under Bibi will continue to settle Yehudah and Shomron along with the Negev and Gallil. This is really only a minor incident, unfortunate but in no way does it negate the forward march, BSD togeulah shleima.David Tzoharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11510921351328863453noreply@blogger.com