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גלעד מורג, מורן אזולאי, שילֹה פריד | 25.06.24
"אגו, אגו, תרדוף" הוא גירסה מסולפת של הפסוק "צֶדֶק צֶדֶק, תִּרְדֹּף--לְמַעַן תִּחְיֶה וְיָרַשְׁתָּ אֶת-הָאָרֶץ, אֲשֶׁר-יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ נֹתֵן לָךְ". (דברים טז,כ).
אבל אני חייב לומר שהמצב שלנו הרבה יותר גרוע ממה שמציע משחק המילים הנבון הזה. נכון, לא מעניין בג"ץ בצדק, מלבד איך שופטיו בוחרים לפרש את זה. מטרותיו העיקריות, בין אם השופטים הדתיים בבג״ץ יודעים ובין אם לא, כוללות הפחתת השפעת התורה בכל הזדמנות, צמצום אופייה היהודי של מדינת ישראל בכל הזדמנות, לטובת גרסת הדמוקרטיה שלה, קרי. דמו-
לגרסת הצדק של בג״ץ אין קשר לחיים בארץ שה' נתן לנו, שלא לדבר על כפי שהשם מתכוון לנו לחיות.
במילים פשוטות, בג״ץ עושה מה שהוא רוצה, כדי לקדם את האג'נדה שלו.
העובדה שהעם בחר את הממשלה הנוכחית, ושהמפלגות המשתתפות בממשלה הבטיחו לנו רפורמה שיפוטית כאחת מהתחייבויותיה כלפינו לפני הבחירות האחרונות, לא אכפת לבג״ץ. בג״ץ השיג את השילטון העליון בשנות ה-90, תחת הנשיאות של אהרון ברק, ויהיה מוכן לקבל רפומה שיפוטית רק כשהגיהנום יעבור סופת שלג, וכנראה שגם אז לא.
נראה כי גם לרובוטים המוחים על הרפורמה השיפוטית בכבישים לא אכפת מדמוקרטיה אמיתית. החינוך שלהם בבתי הספר היסודיים והתיכוניים נשלט ותמרן אותם עובדי המדינה הנאמנים לבג״ץ או לתפיסתו המעוותת על הדמוקרטיה. למוחים בכבישים אין שום מושג מה זה דמוקרטיה אמיתית.
להחלטה הזו של בג"ץ (והכתבה הזו) אין שום קשר לסוגיית גיוס החרדים. כפי שמופיע למטה בידי הבחורים, "העם בחר". העם החליט על הממשלה הנוכחית. זה על העם להחליט אם הוא עשה טעות ורוצה ממשלה אחרת בפעם הבאה. אם הם רוצים שחרדים יתגייסו, אז הם צריכים להודיע לנציגי המפלגות שלהם על דעותם ולאיים להצביע למפלגה אחרת אם לא מבצעים את מה שהם רוצים.
די ל התערבות של בג"ץ בכדי להתנגד לממשלה ש״העם בחר״!
זו פשוט דיקטטורה.
למרות שהמלך מסתובב בערום אבל עדיין יש מתעקשים שהוא מלובש בבגדים חדשים יפים.
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| בית-המשפט הגבוה לצדק (בג"ץ) מלא סמלי הבונים החופשיים (פרי מסון) Israel's Supreme Court, filled with Masonic symbolism |
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| L: "High Court of Justice, Ego, ego, you shall pursue?" R: "Enough High Court of Justice Dictatorship" |
YNET: Supreme Court rules government, IDF must draft Haredi menEsser Agaroth (2¢):
The unanimous ruling says there can be no differentiation between yeshiva students and other Israelis and state funding of them must stop
Shilo Fried, Moran Azulay, Gilad Morag | June 25, 2024
The Supreme Court on Tuesday ruled unanimously that the government must draft Haredi men to military service. In the ruling, the court says there can be no state funding for Yeshiva students who do not enlist. (cont.)
"Ego, ego, you shall pursue" is a play on the verse "Justice, justice, you shall pursue... in order that you shall live and inherit the Land God has given you." (Deut. 16:20)
But I must say that our situation is much worse than suggested by this clever play on words. True, the Israel's High Court of Justice has no interest in justice, save how they choose to view it. Its primary objectives, whether those "religious" justices on the court know it or not, include beating down the influence of Torah at every turn, reducing the Jewish character of the state of Israel, in favor of its version of democracy, ie. deMOCKracy, and encouraging the ultimate assimilation of the Jewish People and its homeland into the globalist community of non-Jewish nations of the world.
The Court's version of justice has no connection whatsoever to living in the land that God has given us, let alone as God has intended for us to exist.
Simply put, it does what it wants, in order to further its agenda.
The fact that the people elected the current government, and that the participating parties in the government promised voters judicial reform as part of its commitments to us before the last election seems to be irrelevant to the Court. The Court gained ultimate power in the 1990s, under the leadership of then Chief Justice Aharon Barak, and will only be ready to let go of it when hell freezes over, and probably not even then.
A true democracy also seems to be irrelevant to the pawns protesting the judicial reform in the streets, whose education in elementary and high school has been controlled and manipulated by the very civil servants loyal to the Court, or at least to its distorted view of democracy.
This decision of Israel's High Court (and this post) has nothing to do with the Haredi draft issue. As the banner above shows, "the people decided." The people decided on the current government. It is for the people to decide whether they made a mistake and want a different government next time. If they want Haredim to be drafted, then they need to let their party representatives know how they feel.
Enough with the High Court stepping in to cancel a decision, it does not happen to like, made by the democratically elected government.
This is nothing more than a dictatorship.
The emperor is naked, and everyone still insist that he is wearing the finest of clothes.
Both my children were combat soldiers - my daughter has been combining her higher education studies with frequent call ups to miluim.
ReplyDeleteEach year they pay their tuition costs, and are refunded a percentage BECAUSE they served their country - OUR COUNTRY - in combat positions.
My son does not get called to miluim, because he suffered a life-changing injury during his service. And over 3 years since then, he is still waiting for some kind of compensation.
Why should those of us who pay taxes do so to people who don't serve the country? Who don't put their lives on the line for the sake of others?
There are hilonim who don't serve in the army, or do national service. They have to pay for their education, and don't receive hosts of bituach leumi benefits etc.
Why should haredim get preferential treatment? Helen Oster
First of all, thank you for taking the time to leave a comment here. It is of the utmost importance that those of us who do not agree 100% communicate with one another.
ReplyDeleteTo coin a phrase, we can disagree without being disagreeable...
I am sure my thanks for your children's service is small, if any, consolation for their sacrifice.
For the most part, I do not disagree with you.
Although I do support Torah institutions and those who study in them, I do not support that every single student in them should be their full time. Only a fraction.
Those hillonim who do not serve typically can pay for their higher education, and much more than that.
But none of this is the point.
As I wrote this is not about who should be drafted, but how the decision should be made.
It should be made by the democratically elected government, and not by the mostly self-perpetuating High Court.
In the U. S. there are accusations of judges "legislating from the bench." But nothing in the U. S. can compare to the decisions made by our High Court.
Regarding the draft itself, it is not about fairness, it is about indoctrinating Haredi youth into secular society. If I were a Haredi parent, I would be seriously concerned, too.
On the other side, do secular parents really their children exposed to tefillin, siddurim, and minyanim?Although some wouldn't mind, I doubt that most would.
Left wing, former politician Haim Ramon recently pointed out some similar suspicious things about the haredi draft.
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Their has been some promising progress made. We have a long way to go.
We already have the Netzah Yehuda battalion, whose purpose is to allow Haredi Jewish men to serve as combat soldiers by creating an atmosphere conducive to their religious convictions in the strict observance of Halacha.
ReplyDeleteWhat excuse can these refusers possibly have for taking money from the hard working people of this country without giving back?
Let them move to New York - they can work at B&H or Adorama.
Excellent article and your excellent response in the comment section.
ReplyDeleteThe unhigh court in Israel is infamously known as the most draconian court in the so-called democratic world. They are in most peoples' eyes satanically evil and that is the most fitting description to what they really are.
Courts are there for one reason only to uphold the law that when a case is brought before them, they 'judge', nothing more. In other words, they are NOT allowed to legislate and to overrule
the government elected by the people. This particular court goes so far as dictating everything and overruling what they don't like. This court elects themselves (is there anything more dictatorial than that?).
The population & government have an obligation to see that they end this evil. The whole purpose of our people in our Land is making sure that Israel is the Jewish Land (only) given to we the Jewish people by our Creator, G-D Almighty, in order to be our heart and soul and from where Torah and the Word of G-D will go forth (a light unto the nations).
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Helen Oster,
ReplyDeleteI assume you are only responding to the part of my comment in which I say that we have a long way to go, because I will remind you that this post is not about the Haredi Draft issue; it is about the High Court dictating to the democratically-elected government what it should and should not do. In other words, it is dictating to the people what it should or should not do.
To suggest that any Jew leave Eretz Yisrael, regardless of religious convictions, as you refer to them, is nothing less than offensive.
If you believe that the possession of the Land is transactional, based on Jews doing their part to sustain and protect it, you would be correct. I am sure that I do not have to remind of our history, in which we lost the Land... twice, for not doing our part.
The Haredim may not be doing their part in your view. But they are doing their part to prevent from being thrown out a third time.
There are Jews in the country, and the left AND right, who facilitate avodah zarah (foreign worship), intermarriage, and who believe it acceptable to hand out residency status to anyone who asks.
These Jews are do not want to have more children, and thus more future voters in elections, so they bring in non-Jewish, future voters in other ways, just like what is happening in the U. S. with its disastrous border situation. The difference is that we have a High Court which is facilitating this.
If we continue on this path, these Jews will eventually get what they want: A nation like all other nations.
Netzah Yehudah was formerly Nahal Haredi began as a unit with primarily strict religious Zionists, who felt that Hesder wasn't strict enough -- we already say Elazar Stern try to dismantle that program at every turn -- (I'm oversimplifying) and Chabadniks. It had many problems it had to fix, with no help from a government who doesn't actually care. Letting soldiers out for Shabbat 20 minutes before sunset in the middle of nowhere, forcing them to stay on base anyway was only one example.
So, no. One Haredi unit, however improved it is, is not enough of an infrastructure to start mass conscription. There is one more new unit. Progress.
And before we blame the Haredi leadership (which does deserve some of the blame), I repeat what I have been saying for years, the Left does not want Haredim in the IDF, except for the purposes of turning them into former Haredim when they get released.
This must change. The Left made their own bed, and didn't need Haredi leadership to do it for them.
I will hazard a guess that you may not agree with this. If that is the case, then I hope we agree to disagree. I believe that there will be topics in the future on which we will agree.
Thanks again for commenting.
I absolutely agree that the Israeli Supreme Court has far too much power, and it is a dangerous route to travel. However, I also believe that in this particular case they made the correct decision.
ReplyDeleteA number of Hareidi leaders themselves have suggested they would rather leave Israel than serve in the IDF. That is their choice.
They cannot be forced to serve, because in those circumstances they’d make terrible soldiers. But we have to stop funding their studies if they refuse. We don’t fund studies for hilonim who don’t serve. The system must be equitable.
Again, I agree with much of what you just stated.
ReplyDeleteObviously, I do not agree with you regarding the court's decision.
It is their choice if they want to leave. I hope that we do not come to a point in which they are "encouraged" to do so.
"...they would rather leave Israel than serve in the IDF. "
Don't read "IDF." Instead read "indoctrination."
Perhaps another time, I will write about those studies of the hilonim, funded or not, and whether I want my taxes going toward such funding.
Of course, there are so many more important things to write about at this time.
Moshe,
ReplyDeleteThank you for your continued support!