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Arutz 7: Yesh Atid’s Lipman: Giving Up Settlements Will Hurt
MK says love of the land of Israel can go hand-in-hand with support for Israeli withdrawals, PA state.
Maayana Miskin, June 11, 2013
Love for the entire land of Israel can go hand-in-hand with support for Israeli withdrawals and the creation of an Arab state in Judea and Samaria, says MK Dov Lipman of the Yesh Atid party.
MK Lipman spoke Tuesday at the first meeting in this Knesset session of the Land of Israel Lobby.
“I came to the Land of Israel Lobby meeting today because it’s very important for Members of Knesset who support the ‘two states for two peoples’ plan to say in a loud, clear voice that we love the entire land of Israel,” he declared.
“Of course we need to build and support the settlement blocs, of course Jerusalem is the eternal capital of the Jewish nation, and of course any concession of even the smallest piece of the land of Israel will pain me greatly,” he continued.
Lipman recalled a visit he made to Hevron last week as part of a tour organized by MK Orit Struk (Bayit Yehudi). “There, under the stones of the Tomb of the Patriarchs my love of Israel grew even stronger,” he said.
“So did [my recognition of] the reality there, which we cannot ignore,” he added. (cont.)
(Tip Credit: Jews News)Esser Agaroth (2¢):
Never, have I heard such a great example of double talk,...except from maybe from Shimon Peres,...or Ariel Sharon.
Clearly, MK Dov "Rabbi" Dov Lipman is a spy. No, not the kind who acquires secrets and hands them over to enemies, at least not that I am aware of.
Rather he is this kind of spy...
כה וַיָּשֻׁבוּ, מִתּוּר הָאָרֶץ, מִקֵּץ, אַרְבָּעִים יוֹם.
כו וַיֵּלְכוּ וַיָּבֹאוּ אֶל-מֹשֶׁה וְאֶל-אַהֲרֹן
וְאֶל-כָּל-עֲדַת בְּנֵי-יִשְׂרָאֵל, אֶל-מִדְבַּר פָּארָן--קָדֵשָׁה;
וַיָּשִׁיבוּ אֹתָם דָּבָר וְאֶת-כָּל-הָעֵדָה, וַיַּרְאוּם אֶת-פְּרִי
הָאָרֶץ.
כז וַיְסַפְּרוּ-לוֹ, וַיֹּאמְרוּ, בָּאנוּ, אֶל-הָאָרֶץ אֲשֶׁר שְׁלַחְתָּנוּ; וְגַם זָבַת חָלָב וּדְבַשׁ, הִוא--וְזֶה-פִּרְיָהּ.
כח אֶפֶס כִּי-עַז הָעָם, הַיֹּשֵׁב בָּאָרֶץ; וְהֶעָרִים, בְּצֻרוֹת גְּדֹלֹת מְאֹד, וְגַם-יְלִדֵי הָעֲנָק, רָאִינוּ שָׁם.
כט עֲמָלֵק יוֹשֵׁב, בְּאֶרֶץ הַנֶּגֶב; וְהַחִתִּי וְהַיְבוּסִי
וְהָאֱמֹרִי, יוֹשֵׁב בָּהָר, וְהַכְּנַעֲנִי יוֹשֵׁב עַל-הַיָּם, וְעַל
יַד הַיַּרְדֵּן.ל וַיַּהַס כָּלֵב אֶת-הָעָם, אֶל-מֹשֶׁה; וַיֹּאמֶר, עָלֹה נַעֲלֶה וְיָרַשְׁנוּ אֹתָהּ--כִּי-יָכוֹל נוּכַל, לָהּ.לא וְהָאֲנָשִׁים אֲשֶׁר-עָלוּ עִמּוֹ, אָמְרוּ, לֹא נוּכַל, לַעֲלוֹת אֶל-הָעָם: כִּי-חָזָק הוּא, מִמֶּנּוּ.לב וַיֹּצִיאוּ דִּבַּת הָאָרֶץ, אֲשֶׁר תָּרוּ אֹתָהּ, אֶל-בְּנֵי
יִשְׂרָאֵל, לֵאמֹר: הָאָרֶץ אֲשֶׁר עָבַרְנוּ בָהּ לָתוּר אֹתָהּ, אֶרֶץ
אֹכֶלֶת יוֹשְׁבֶיהָ הִוא, וְכָל-הָעָם אֲשֶׁר-רָאִינוּ בְתוֹכָהּ,
אַנְשֵׁי מִדּוֹת.לג וְשָׁם רָאִינוּ, אֶת-הַנְּפִילִים בְּנֵי
עֲנָק--מִן-הַנְּפִלִים; וַנְּהִי בְעֵינֵינוּ כַּחֲגָבִים, וְכֵן הָיִינוּ
בְּעֵינֵיהֶם.
Numbers 13 25 And they returned from spying out the land at the end of forty days. 26 And they went and came to Moses, and to Aaron, and to all the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the wilderness of Paran, to Kadesh; and brought back word unto them, and unto all the congregation, and showed them the fruit of the land. 27 And they told him, and said: 'We came unto the land whither thou sent us, and surely it flows with milk and honey; and this is the fruit of it. 28 Howbeit the people that dwell in the land are fierce, and the cities are fortified, and very great; and moreover we saw the children of Anak there. 29 Amalek dwelleth in the land of the South; and the Hittite, and the Jebusite, and the Amorite, dwell in the mountains; and the Canaanite dwelleth by the sea, and along by the side of the Jordan.' 30 And Caleb stilled the people toward Moses, and said: 'We should go up at once, and possess it; for we are well able to overcome it.' 31 But the men that went up with him said: 'We are not able to go up against the people; for they are stronger than we.' 32 And they spread an evil report of the land which they had spied out unto the children of Israel, saying: 'The land, through which we have passed to spy it out, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of great stature. 33 And there we saw the Nephilim, the sons of Anak, who come of the Nephilim; and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.'
Of course, he is NOT of the Joshua nor Caleb variety. Rather, he is like one of the 10 spies, who although learned in Torah, and witnessed the miracles The Almighty did for them, they had a complete lack of emunah (faith) in Him.
Like those spies, MK Lipman believes that we should look at the "reality" of our situation, which is, or course, code for "I'm afraid of the big, bad Arabs!" (Yishma'el) or "I'm afraid of what the 'international community' (goyim) will think!" (Esau).
Pathetic.
MK Dov Lipman lounging in his K'nesseth office |
He must be like one of the spies. The Almighty promised us this Land, handed it back to us in 1948, gave us even more back in 1967, and then topped it off with lands from promises for the future, right before our very eyes.
And, Dov Lipman wants to carve it up, just like Shimon Peres, Yossi Beilin, and Zahava Gal-On! Only, Dov Lipman is worse. We already know what Peres, Beilin, and Gal-On want to do. But, Lipman?
Like the spies, he is supposedly learned in Torah, and thus should hold dear the precious gifts The Almighty has given us, rather than spit in His Face, by rejecting the Holy Land granted only to us.
And what exactly does "Rabbi" Lipman intend to do about all of those Torah observant Jews living on those lands, to be handed over??? Has he thought of that yet? Difficult concessions, huh? To our enemies, huh?
"Fearless Leader" Yair Lapid with Dov Lipman, one of his token, kippah-wearing minions |
In contrast to MK Lipman, they are like Joshua and Caleb.
I guess MK Lipman was just thinking of Hevron, where are righteous forbears are buried, Shiloh, where the Mishkan stood for 400 plus years, and Beth El.
If he believes that we just sit around and wait for Mashi'ah to do everything, then why on earth is he jumping the gun by sitting in a prematurely established government?
You cannot have your cake and eat it, too.
MK Lipman, you should resign. And, if you are still wondering why I do not include the title "Rabbi" next to your name, then you really have some self-reflection to do.
5 comments:
"Love for the entire land of Israel can go hand-in-hand with support for Israeli withdrawals and the creation of an Arab state in Judea and Samaria, says MK Dov Lipman of the Yesh Atid party
This has got to be one of the most contradictory comments I have ever heard. In addition to the halachic problems, I could also go on about how it makes no sense politically, but I not sure if there is anyone reading this who disagrees with me.
Opportunist fraud. He used the whole incident in Beit Shemesh in order to get into the Knesset and get more votes for that leftist party he is part of.
Two words: Erev Rav
All of you are correct!
This article is nothing but lies. I know the Lipman family personally, they are wonderful people. This is nothing but smears
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