Sunday, June 08, 2014

Ambassador Dan Shapiro: Traitor? Or Just Innocently Ignorant of his Own Heritage?

מוצש״ק פר׳ בהעלותך תשע״ד

Arutz 7: US Ambassador Condemns Construction Announcement
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Tova Dvorin, June 5, 2014

U. S. Ambassador Dan Shapiro
American? Jew? Chicago Bears fan?

US Ambassador to Israel Daniel Shapiro strongly condemned Israel's initiative to build over 1,500 new housing units in Judea, Samaria and Jerusalem Thursday, in a move many perceive to be Israel's response to Hamas and Fatah's new "unity" government in the Palestinian Authority (PA).

“We oppose settlement construction in the West Bank as well as announcements regarding such construction,” Shapiro stated, in an interview with IDF Radio. “We would do so with or without this disputed case of a new Palestinian transitional government.” (cont.)

Esser Agaroth (2¢):
Who's "we?"

Is Dan Shapiro an American? Is he a Jew? What kind of Jew?

I am willing to bet that he not intentionally a trader against his own people. Rather he is just like most Jews living in the U. S., head deep in confusion between what are Western cultural values and sensibilities.

In all fairness to Dan Shapiro, he is not the only, highly confused, Jewish ambassador we have had imposed upon us by the U. S. Government. One of them even wore a kippah, if you can believe that.

Likewise many of those confused Jews living in the U. S. also don kippoth. Wouldn't want to lose those high paying jobs as clergyman in Modern Orthodox synagogues, by encouraging aliyah (immigration to Israel), would we? Such a shame, and lost opportunity to set an example for Jews, by meeting those challenges which so many are afraid of.

But, I digress...
The Torah forbids the giving up of Land to non-Jews, whether they want to annihilate us or not.

Anyone who disagrees with this understanding, has yet to demonstrate any justification for doing so, which has any halakhic (Torah Law) basis upon which to stand.

How can any Jew in his right mind still see the U. S. as a friend of Israel, breathing down our necks, telling us what to do, and waving money in front of our faces?!

The U. S. Government and Jews living in their only true homeland, the Land of Israel, are so very clearly not on the same side.

American Jews had better make up their minds as to which side they are on, and quickly, before it it too late for them.

I feel fortunate, having made up my mind long ago, recently reaffirming that decision as to which side I am on, by renouncing my U. S. citizenship.

In Dan Shapiro's case, he needs to change his mind. Is he an American? A Jew? A U. S. Government, minion class "Court Jew?"

Sorry, Dan, but you can't have your matzah balls (or latkes, or corned beef on rye), and eat them too.

Whose side ARE you on?


Anonymous said...

Your comment "Wouldn't want to lose those high paying jobs as clergyman in Modern Orthodox synagogues, by encouraging aliyah (immigration to Israel), would we? "
I have heard you make this point before. However, the aliyah rate of North American Jews is nowhere near high enough to put Rabbi's jobs in jeopardy. I don't think anyone holds you should be in chutz l'aretz l'hatchila.

Esser Agaroth said...

True, but why aren't they encouraging aliyah? Going with them? Setting an example.

Even Rabbi Riskin, of whom you know I am not a fan, did just that.

Rabbi Mordechai Tendler also planned to bring his community to a new neighborhood in Kokhav Ya'aqov. (Not sure what happened with that.)

So, it's nothing too out of the ordinary to encourage aliyah.

Anonymous said...

Ok so I agree with you there

Billy said...

Rather he is just like most Jews living in the U. S., head deep in confusion between what are Western cultural values and sensibilities.

No worse so than Israeli Jews. The difference between Israeli Jews and American Jews is that American Jews don't know any better and American Jews are essentially harmless.

Israelis, in contrast, have committed massive crimes against the Jewish people and continue to do so to this day. They have never expressed an iota of remorse for their crimes nor have they ever attempted to make things right. It isn't American Jews who are destroying settlements, collaborating with the PLO, holding Amir in inhumane conditions or persecuting the haredim, it is Israelis.

Remember that neither Oslo, Gush Katif or Amona all happened in the absense of any American pressure. They were motivated exclusively by the Israeli public's hatred for real Jews (settlers, hardalim and haredim). And certainly Amir isn't in jail because of US pressure, he is in prison because most Israelis support torturing maybe the greatest living Jewish hero that there is.

Esser Agaroth said...


I don't disagree with you. I was keeping the focus on one thing at a time, in this case American, and its government for which Amb. Shapiro works.

I believe that I have gone after Jews in Israel as well. But, I'll have to make sure I do so sufficiently in the future I suppose.

I hope that makes sense.

Billy said...

I get it, it's just that I think guys like Shapiro are harmless. I also don't think American pressure is a big deal.

Moshe Feiglin once said there is no international pressure, Israel just follows the leftist path and then uses pressure as an excuse for it's own spinelessness.

Now I'll certainly concede that international pressure was a factor up through the 70s, but from Camp David on, all the big moves that have been made have been internally motivated.

Ironically, it is when there is international pressure that you can be sure that there will be no destruction of settlements or agreements with terrorists, but when there is no pressure (like today), look out!

Esser Agaroth said...

Harmless? Well, I am worried more about what these Jews are doing to themselves, actually.

Feiglin is right.

Remember when Reagan threatened to remove U. S. loan guarantees, if Israel did not stop building in Yehudah and Shomron?

PM Shamir (in his own way) told him where to get off. We're still here, aren't we? ;-)

Billy said...

I think that was Bush Sr. There have only been two US Presidents since WWII who really disliked/hated Jews: Carter and Bush Sr.

Both guys ended up one termers. Ha.

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